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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Apr 1, 2019

Your host, Jeffrey Palermo, is excited to bring you this week’s episode with his guest, Ted Neward! Ted is an Independent Consultant and Architect, as well as a long-time columnist of CODE Magazine. He also teaches Android Development (using Java) and iOS Development at the University of Washington as a Guest Lecturer.


In this week’s episode, Ted and Jeffrey are going to be talking about the ‘Ops’ (AKA the operations) side of DevOps. They discuss how operations is implemented in the DevOps movement, the role of operations, how Dev and Ops should work together, what companies should generally understand around the different roles, where the industry is headed, and Ted’s many recommendations in the world of DevOps.


Topics of Discussion:

[:44] About this week’s episode with Ted Neward.

[1:55] About the MVP Global Summit in Ted’s hometown!

[3:10] Ted’s take on how ‘operations’ is getting implemented in this DevOps movement.

[9:48] Ted’s small tangent about the making of Office Space.

[10:45] Ted’s thoughts on using the Cloud with operations.

[12:35] Ted discusses the role of operations, gives a recent example from his position at Smartsheet, and compares Dev and Ops and how they should be working together.

[21:14] Jeffrey and Ted discuss where the industry is headed, and the value of Ops.

[27:10] What should companies and teams (QA, Devs, and Ops) know, put in place for their regular applications, and learn and understand around this space?

[29:16] A word from The Azure DevOps Podcast’s sponsor: Clear Measure.

[29:42] Jeffrey and Ted’s recommendations for mastering C# and .NET development, as well as Ted’s hopes for the future of coding schools and what developers should be taught.

[34:49] Talking DevOps diagnostics and general rules of thumb for developer teams for configuring and building an effective enterprise system.

[43:00] The benefit of including the Ops and the QA team as a part of the project discussions with the Dev team.

[49:40] What Ted recommends listeners follow-up after today’s podcast.

[52:08] Where to find Ted online.


Mentioned in this Episode:

Azure DevOps

Clear Measure (Sponsor)

Ted Neward (LinkedIn)

MVP Global Summit

CODE Magazine

iSchool at the University of Washington

Office Space (Film, 1999)


LinkedIn Learning

CLR via C# (Developer Reference), by Jeffrey Richter

CoreCLR page on GitHub

Shared Source CLI Essentials, by David Stutz, Ted Neward, and Geoff Shilling

Douglas E. Comer’s Amazon Book Page

  1. Richard Steven’s Amazon Book Page

Advanced Programming in the UNIX Environment, by W. Richard Stevens and Stephen A. Rago

The Azure DevOps Podcast episode: “Eric Hexter on DevOps Diagnostics”

Effective Enterprise Java, by Ted Neward

Windows Management Instrumentation

The Pragmatic Programmer: From Journeyman to Master, by Andrew Hunt and David Thomas

@TedNeward on Twitter

Neward & Associates


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