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Podcast sponsor: Clear Measure We are a software architecture company that empowers our client's development teams to be self-sufficient: moving fast, delivering quality, and running their systems with confidence.

Nov 6, 2023

Jeremy helps developers by sharing his struggles, mostly in technology, but also with being more social as an introvert, understanding learning potential, and playing banjo. He has worked as a corporate developer, as a Chief Improvement Officer at a startup, and as a contract developer. Currently, he teaches developers through online courses, workshops, tech articles, and conference talks. He spends most of his time in C# and has recently ventured into Go (Golang) and Rust (Rust lang) to explore some of his favorite topics: interfaces, delegates, concurrency, and parallel programming. You can see him speaking next at LIVE! 360 in Orlando, FL Nov 12‒17, 2023. Use promo code “Clark” to save $500 off your ticket. Also Oct 23rd at DevSpaceConf in Huntsville, AL.


Design patterns are not just for architects. In fact, you already use Design Patterns but probably don’t know it. Observer, Facade, Iterator, Proxy — these are all patterns that allow us to better communicate our ideas with other developers. And once we understand the patterns, we can use solutions that people way smarter than we have already implemented. In this session, we’ll take a look at several Gang of Four patterns that we regularly use without realizing it. Don’t know who the Gang of Four is? Join us to find out.


Topics of Discussion:

[3:30] Jeremy talks about his foray into programming and the colleagues that helped him gain confidence.

[6:44] Jeremy went from speaking at smaller user groups and code camps to global conferences.

[7:35] The act of sharing gained expertise is what makes you an expert.

[10:10] Design patterns and their relevance in development.

[13:19] The importance of the Gang of Four book and Head First Design Patterns.

[17:24] Iterator and the patterns that fall in that category.

[20:43] Are we seeing classic patterns be redirected or are new ones taking shape?

[23:05] The concept of abstraction.

[24:10] The two states that developers fall into.

[28:02] More about Jeremy’s testing philosophy and how it’s changed over the years.

[29:26] What Jeremy prioritizes when helping other developers start a new codebase.

[32:34] Where people can go for more education and information on these topics.


Mentioned in this Episode:

Clear Measure Way

Architect Forum

Software Engineer Forum

Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at

Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor)

.NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo — Available on Amazon!

Jeffrey Palermo’s Twitter — Follow to stay informed about future events!

Jeremy Clark Twitter

Jeremy Clark LinkedIn

Jeremy Bytes Blog

DevSpace Conf


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