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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Dec 26, 2023

Carl Franklin is Executive Vice President of App vNext, a software development firm focused on modern methodologies and technologies. Carl is a 20+ year veteran of the software industry, co-host and founder of .NET Rocks!, the first and most widely listened to podcast for .NET developers, a Microsoft MVP for Developer Technologies, and Senior Executive of Pwop Studios, a full-service audio and video production/post-production studio located in Southeastern Connecticut.


Topics of Discussion:

[6:50] Tips for those interested in starting their own podcast.

[9:42] What draws Carl to teaching and training?

[11:01] Carl’s mentorship from Ethan Winer at Crescent Software and how that ethic stuck with him.

[12:10] What has and hasn’t changed, and how do we navigate text moving off the paper and onto the web?

[15:41] Why Carl finds it worthwhile to have talk code with ChatGPT.

[20:22] SMTP in the ’90s had little security.

[23:40] What are the big things coming out that are going to change the game?

[24:40] Steve Sanderson’s demo of Blazor.

[28:36] The remaking of how we do URL launches applications.

[31:22] The Blazor component model is clean and easy to use, thanks to Steve Sanderson.

[31:57] The evolution of web development, from static sites to interactive applications, and how Blazor’s streaming rendering technology can bridge the gap between these two approaches.

[35:42] EventCallback.

[36:22] What does the next five years look like for Carl?

[40:17] A new show, The Blazor Puzzle.

[42:07] Taking inspiration from the Car Talk podcast.

[44:44] What conferences and travel do Carl and Jeffrey have on their calendars for 2024?


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Carl Franklin


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