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Azure DevOps Podcast

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Dec 11, 2023

From humble beginnings as a mechanic who later became a software engineer/architect/now business owner and who has built software for some of the biggest companies on the planet, Clark’s passionately unapologetic on a mission to create the most inclusive, tech-savvy, family-friendly community of geeks on the planet. Fueled by creativity, Clark invests his time partnering with companies on how to foster their communities while helping them solve business problems through innovative technology solutions and common sense.


Topics of Discussion:

[2:45] What events in Clark’s career shaped and steered him in his current direction?

[4:29] Developmentor, and how Clark got into user groups and events.

[6:54] What should we know about That Conference?

[9:52] The growing culture of That Conference.

[12:22] The pros and cons of small tech conferences.

[12:41] That Conference is only a team of four.

[13:50] The importance of in-person connections and bonding at conferences.

[14:56] We want to meet other coders! How That Conference gets people together where the conversation is perfectly aligned.

[19:09] What was the first conference Clark attended?

[25:06] Tips for both newbies and return attendees for getting the most out of attending That Conference.

[26:09] Open spaces provide a place for unstructured conversation anytime, anywhere.

[28:40] Making the most of networking when the “density of nerds” is extremely high.

[28:55] At conferences, it’s about the collective coming together.

[30:44] How can someone learn more and get involved with That Conference?


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That Conference


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